Monday, June 13, 2005

The Tully "daylight disc" & "saucer nest" effect


The Tully "daylight disk" and what it did: I constructed this montage to show what farmer George Pedley saw at 9 a.m. January 19 1966. The UFO drawing is Pedley's original witness sketch. It is superimposed over a photo of the "nest" effect - a clockwise tight spiral of interwoven sword grass approximately about 32 feet by 25 feet . Initially Pedley only saw a darkened swirling lagoon surface. The "nest" surfaced after a short time and had the quality of a floating elliptical bed of reeds. George Pedley saw the UFO initially about 25 feet directly above the lagoon surface. It rose up vertically about another 25 feet then appeared to depart towards a south west direction, initially dipping slightly and taking off at roughly a 45 degree angle.

Many explanations have been put forward - mating birds such as brolgas, mating crocodiles, upside down helicopters, a "willy willy" (Australian term for a mini-tornado wind vortex - the official Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) explanation) lifting the reeds into a saucer shape, a hoax (with little evidence author John Van Tiggelin tilts at the idea it was a hoax by Pedley that got out of hand - see his book "Mango Country" (2003)) , and a "plasma vortex"(my friend Jenny Randles argued for this - the same model used to "explain" crop circles) . None of these explanations are tenable.

My conclusion: "The 1966 Tully UFO physical trace case still stands as a classic example of the impressive physical dimensions of the UFO phenomenon."
Bill Chalker

2 Comments:

Blogger Isaac Koi said...

Hi Bill,

You've almost certainly got all the following references (and many more) to discussion of the Tully "saucer nest". However, just in case they are of any use to you or anyone else dropping in on this part of your blog, I've cut and a pasted a few references from the current draft of the UFO Chronology I'm preparing.

When the list of references is sorted by length, most of the longest discussions can be seen to have been written by you, with the following primary exceptions:

(a) 8 pages: Collins, Andrew in his “The Circlemakers: A Revolutionary New Vision” (1992)

(b) 4 pages: Schnabel, Jim in his “Round in Circles” (1993).

(c) 4 pages: Vallee, Jacques in his “Passport to Magonia” (1970).

(d) 4 pages: Edwards, Frank in his “Flying Saucers – Here and Now!” (1967).


Longer list in alphabetical order by author:

Basterfield, Keith in his “Close Encounters of an Australian Kind – UFOs: The Image Hypothesis” (1981) at pages 54-55 (in Chapter 4) of the Reed softcover edition.

Canadeo, Anne in her “UFO’s: The Fact or Fiction File” (1990) at pages 42-43 (in Chapter 4 of the pro-UFO side of the book, i.e. the side which starts with the Chapter 1 entitled “Visitors at Cisco Grove”) of the Walker hardback edition.

Chalker, Bill in “The Encyclopedia of UFOs” (1980) (edited by Ronald Story) at pages 370-371 of the NEL hardback edition in an entry entitled “Tully Australia) ‘saucer nests’”.

Chalker, Bill in Jerome Clark’s “The UFO Encyclopedia: 1st edition: Volume 3 – High Strangeness” (1996) at pages 491-494 (in an entry entitled “UFOs in Australia and New Zealand, 1960-1979”) of the Omnigraphics hardback edition.

Chalker, Bill in Jerome Clark’s “The UFO Encyclopedia: The Phenomenon from the Beginning - 2nd edition” (1998) in Volume 2:L-Z at pages 903-906 (in an entry entitled “Tully and Other UFO Nests”) of the Omnigraphics hardback edition.

Collins, Andrew in his “The Circlemakers: A Revolutionary New Vision” (1992) at pages 174-177 (in Chapter 17), 187, 191 (in Chapter 18), 233 (in Chapter 21), 327 (in the Notes and References) of the ABC softcover edition.

Delgado, Pat and Andrews, Colin in their “Circular Evidence: A Detailed Investigation” (1989) at page 180 (in Chapter 6) of the Bloomsbury hardback edition (with the same page numbering in the Phanes softcover edition).

Dolan, Richard in his “UFOs and the National Security State: Volume 1” (2000) at page 391 (in Chapter 7) of the Keyhole softcover edition, at pages 298-299 of the 2002 revised Hampton Road softcover edition.

Edwards, Frank in his “Flying Saucers – Here and Now!” (1967) at pages 32-35 (in Chapter 4) of the Bantam paperback edition.

Hesemann, Michael in his “The Cosmic Connection” (1996) at page 61 (in Chapter 5) of the Gateway Books softcover edition.

Kettelkamp, Larry in his “Investigating UFOs” (1971) at pages 83-85 (in the unnumbered chapter entitled “Breaking the Space Barrier”) of the Target softcover edition.

Mrzyglod, Ian in “The Age of the UFO” (1984) (edited by Peter Brookesmith) at page 20 (in the unnumbered chapter entitled “As round as saucers”) of the Black Cat hardback edition. The relevant chapter is an article reprinted from the weekly partwork “The Unexplained”.

Noyes, Raplh in “The Crop Circle Enigma” (1990) (edited by Ralph Noyes) at page 27 (in the Introduction) of the revised Gateway softcover edition.

Phillips, Ted in his “Physical Traces associated with UFO Sightings” (1975) at page 40 (in Part C) of the CUFOS paperbound edition.

Randles, Jenny and Hough, Peter in their “Encyclopedia of the Unexplained” (1995) at pages 25-26 (in the unnumbered chapter entitled “The Supernatural Earth”) of the Brockhampton hardback edition.

Randles, Jenny in “The UFO Conspiracy” (1987) at pages 171-172 (in Chapter 27) of the Barnes & Noble hardback edition.

Randles, Jenny in her “UFOs and How to See Them” (1992) at pages 88-89 (in Chapter 4) of the Brockhampton Press hardback edition.

Schnabel, Jim in his “Round in Circles” (1993) at pages 17-18 (in Chapter 2), 30 (in Chapter 3), 76 (in Chapter 8) of the Hamish Hamilton hardback edition.

Spencer, John in his “The UFO Encyclopedia” (1991) at pages 241-242 (in an entry entitled “Pedley, George”) of the Guild hardback edition (with the same page numbering in the Avon softcover edition) at page 283 of the Headline paperback edition.

Spencer, John in his “UFOs: The Definitive Casebook” (1991) at pages 163, 166 (in the unnumbered section entitled “Australasia”, in the chapter entitled “Database”) of the Hamlyn hardback edition.

Stanton, L Jerome in his “Flying Saucers : Hoax or Reality?” (1966) at pages 131-132 (in Chapter 8) of the Belmont paperback edition.

Steiger, Brad and Whritenour, Joan in their “The New UFO Breakthrough” (1968) at page 82 (in Chapter 6) of the Tandem paperback edition.

Story, Ronald in his “UFOs and the Limits of Science” (1981) at pages 83-84 (in Chapter 3) of the NEL Hardback edition.

Tutt, Keith in his “True Life Encounters : Unexplained Natural Phenomena” (1997) at page 277 (in Chapter 3) of the Millenium paperback edition.

Vallee, Jacques in his “Dimensions” (1988) at pages 59-61 (in Part 1, Chapter 2) of the Souvenir Press hardback edition.

Vallee, Jacques in his “Passport to Magonia” (1970) at pages 32-35 (in Chapter 2) of the Tandem paperback edition.


Kind Regards,

Isaac Koi

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